{"id":5880,"date":"2016-12-29T03:21:16","date_gmt":"2016-12-28T19:21:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?p=5880"},"modified":"2016-12-29T03:24:55","modified_gmt":"2016-12-28T19:24:55","slug":"interview-on-winemaker-of-aoyun-the-most-expensive-chinese-wine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?p=5880","title":{"rendered":"Interview on Winemaker of Aoyun, the most expensive Chinese Wine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Jiang LU (Maxime LU\uff09<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of the most expensive and most international wine now made in China, the first on the list should be Aoyun wine (AOYUN) produced in Yunnan Shangri-La by the world&#8217;s top luxury group LVMH. Many other domestic wines claimed to be the same\uff0cbut we know they are just good at amusing themselves and access to only some special channels,\u00a0even much more expensive than AOYUN.\u00a0 While AOYUN is different\uff0cit has been tested by the consumers from London to New York fine wine market\uff0capproved by many international wine experts and specialists\uff0caccepted by the strongest wine merchants including BBR and Live-ex\uff0cand finally entered into Chinese market. Nonetheless\uff0cwe have to admit its price is high\uff08more than 2000RMB\uff0c300 euros around\uff09\uff0cthat&#8217;s why it arouse so much controversy in domestic and international wine market.`<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5841\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5841\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5841\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun6.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun6\" width=\"640\" height=\"361\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun6.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun6-150x85.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun6-450x254.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I have been following LVMH Aoyun winery since 2014. LVMH Group has always been a fine wine industry giant, owning such as Chateau Cheval Blanc\u3001Chateau d&#8217;Yquem \u3001Domaine des Lambrays\u3001Krug and many other super top wine brands. This time LVMH also plans to create a luxury boutique wine\uff0cwhich actually could benifit all Chinese wines by enhancing their international reputations\u3002<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5844\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5844\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5844\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun9.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun9\" width=\"480\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun9.jpg 480w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun9-113x150.jpg 113w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun9-338x450.jpg 338w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Simple background information about Aoyun<\/strong><br \/>\nIt took LVMH four years to find a perfect vineyard. Finally they chose the site in Shangri-La, near Meili Snow Mountain (6800 meters above sea level), and beside the Mekong River.<br \/>\nThe daylight hours in the mountains is only 8-9\uff0cless than that is in Bordeaux\u3002It results in a long growing season, giving enough time for phenols\uff0cacids and sugars to ripe. The flowering period in Bordeaux is generally 100-120 days, while in Aoyun vineyard it could be up to 140-160 days.<\/p>\n<p>The pruning and managing work is all done by hand\u3002Traffic is a disaster\u3002The vineyard\uff0cwith a total area of around 28 hectares\uff0c2200-2600m above sea levels\uff0cis distributed in four villages and divided into 320 little plots\uff08one plot covers an area of 1.3 acres on average\uff09\u3002Every hector requires about 3500 hours of manpower to manage\u3002People who work in the field are mainly local Tibetans who have their own cultures and habits\u3002It&#8217;s very difficult to communicate with them\u3002<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5840\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5840\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5840\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun5.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun5\" width=\"640\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun5.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun5-150x82.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun5-450x246.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As mentioned earlier, at present the way Aoyun priced its products remains controversial. I wouldn&#8217;t judge it, but leave it to the consumers. What I will do is to share with you my experience of a serious Aoyun tasting. Besides, it&#8217;s so lucky for me to get a chance to interview Maxence Dulou, the chief winemaker of the winery.<\/p>\n<p>Chief winemaker Maxence Dulou\uff0clive in Yunnan and work with the team since 2012\uff0cnow is in charge of all the viticultural and winemaking work.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5836\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5836\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5836\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun1.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun1\" width=\"547\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun1.jpg 547w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun1-128x150.jpg 128w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun1-385x450.jpg 385w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 547px) 100vw, 547px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think of other wine regions in China?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been to Shandong, and Ningxia twice in the past two years, where I had many quality red wines and do feel its big improvement. Nonetheless each of them has their own problems. In Shandong, there is too much rain, the weather is so wet that the grapes cannot achieve desired maturity, but with some green flavor. It would be difficult to develop organic there. While Ningxia is always sunny, the grapes are able to accumulate enough sugar in the harvest season\uff0cbut lack acidity\uff0cand their tannins cannot ripe enough. It is very cold in the winter, so grapes need to be buried to keep warm. But overall it seems fairly comforting.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>In your opinion\uff0cwhat technologies can be used to make up for the inadequacy caused by the weather\uff1f<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It is the same to all the regions that if there is a real dizaster, the winemaker could do nothing but learn to be strong. The weather varies considerably from June to August in Yunnan\u3002But when it comes to the harvest season, generally from mid-September to the end of October, everyday is sunny and dry, and the grapes can achieve satisfying maturity.<\/p>\n<p>This kind of cliamte is suitable for the implementation of organic management, so that&#8217;s what we do there: use Bordeaux mixture and yak manure only in the vineyard; try to minimize human intervention as possible as we can so that the grapes can gradually adapt themselves to the environment and be able to cope up with all the harsh weathers.<\/p>\n<p>Currently we have only three years cultivation experience and four years operation experience there. We need much more time to master all the micro-climate changes discipline in the production area.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Your vineyard is 2000m high above sea level, thus sunlight would be very strong in the summer. Do you have any special vineyard management techniques (framing, pruning, etc.)?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We use VSP model, which keeps the leaves all through the growing season and cuts some in the veraison period. The leaves facing southwest will always be kept to protect grapes from strong sunlight. The climate varies every year, so pruning work must be done depending on conditions. For example, this June is cloudy, which means we don&#8217;t need to cut too much. Unlike France, thick clouds will weaken the sunlight but will not block it\uff0cnor have any impact on the growth of the grapes. It is because we are in such a high altitude. The clouds are sometimes only 100 meters above our heads\uff08and sometimes even below us\uff09. Sunlight can always find a way to penetrate the clouds into the vineyard to ripen the grapes.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5839\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5839\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5839\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun4.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun4\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun4.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun4-150x100.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun4-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>What are the plans for the future development of the winery?<\/strong><br \/>\nWe&#8217;ll make new technical attempts such as cultivate more grape varieties, improve the pruning and grass planting work, use Chinese pottery in the fermentation and so on.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>It is said the Chinese pottery you just mentioned have been used in making 2013 vintage of Aoyun Wine. Does it work well\uff1f<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We had 40 days maceration(including fermentation), and then moved into second fermentation ( malo-lactic fermentation). 40% new french oak is used at this stage. The rest used old barrels as we normally do. But it is impossible for us to bring in barrels from France due to the inconvenient transportation. Nor could we purchase any old ones from nearby production areas, as different yeast may carry bad bacteria and cause contamination. Thus we chose to use a nuetral container, which could not add any floavor to the wine but will not add any bad effect either. The pottery was by far a satisfying choice. They are brand new\uff0cand use to hold local spirits.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Does Auyun use manual irrigation\uff1f<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In California and Australia\uff0cthe grape roots are bout 50cm long, people use drip irrigation, which means, you give grapes the exact amount what it needs. But drip irrigation will make the surface soil too hard. While in Ao Yun, the grape roots are up to 3 meters, so they can absorb more water from soil and need no irrigation. Natural rainfall is enough for them. In dry winter, we do small range of flood irrigation from time to time. In this way, we can both offer waters to the vine and avoid soil hardening.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>3 meters\u2019 roots? I thought Ao yun had only young vines? How do you control the quality of the grapes? (By Lu Jiang)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We call five or six years old vines young vines. But vines used to make this bottle are already 15 years old. There are many local farmers who planted grapes in this area far before we purchase the estate. At the first two years, we did a lot of research and finally planted some grapes in the last year (2015). These baby vines need time to produce qualified grapes for wine. However, the wine in front of us is made by grapes from 15 years old vine with 3 meters\u2019 roots. 15 years old vine took half of the area of our current vineyard.<\/p>\n<p>In the past, farmers sell grapes to the winery by weight. So you can imagine, the only thing they care about is yields. After we came, we tell the villagers how to work through an interpreter, stay in complete control of quality and rationalize ourselves. We did a lot work here, for example we introduced rootstock grafting. Fisrt, this can improve grape quality. Second, it can prevent Phylloxera\u2014\u2014no signs of it now, but once it occurs\uff0cit would be a disaster. We analyze the composition and structure of the soil and chose the most suitable rootstock. If the rootstocks do improve the quality, we&#8217;ll replant all the old vines.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>So actually you have studied the vineyards since long ago\uff1f<\/strong><br \/>\nYes\uff0cwe started to plant grapes in 2015\uff0cbut begun to communicate with local government since 2012\uff0cand have been studying the field since 2008\uff0c8 years ago.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5838\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5838\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5838\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun3.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun3\" width=\"640\" height=\"411\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun3.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun3-150x96.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun3-450x289.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Currently how many varieties are planted in the vineyards?<\/strong><br \/>\nMainly Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot\uff0cPetit Verdot and some tested verities. Besides that, we planned to try Shira and Malbec, but stays\u00a0undecided.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Does Domaine Chandon Ningxia purchase from\u00a0COFCO Corporation\u00a0Grape Seedling Base too\uff1f\uff08 By Lu Jiang\uff09<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>yes\uff01<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>How do you determine the time for Aoyun to come into the market officailly?<\/strong><br \/>\nIts quality has been repeatedly confirmed that it can meet our strict requirements. Its performance is always stable. It is widely praised by all the international heavyweights in wine industry whom we sent the wine to. They all recognize it as a unique and great Cab, and the best wine in China. At this point, we thought we are ready to bring it to the market.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Could you describe Aoyun from your point of view?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the new interpretation of Cabernet Sauvignon. Deep color, with both fresh fruit and ripe fruit characteristics. Freshness and lively acidity is from the unique terroir. Many people would think of Pauillac the first time they smell it\uff0cwith similar aroma like cigar, tabacco and cedar. While someone find it more like California wines, very fruity, delicious, full-bodied. For me it&#8217;s somewhere in between. The tannin is as elegant and structured as I expected. In a word, we don&#8217;t want to cater to a growing demand fo strong wines, but a sophisticated and graceful wine, the wine that can represent the sacred mountain and its terroir.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5843\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5843\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5843\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun8.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun8\" width=\"640\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun8.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun8-150x106.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun8-450x319.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?attachment_id=5842\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5842\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5842\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun7.jpg\" alt=\"aoyun7\" width=\"540\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun7.jpg 540w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun7-127x150.jpg 127w, http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/aoyun7-380x450.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>AOYUN 2013\u00a0 <\/strong><strong>Tasting note\u00a0(By Maxime LU)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Intense with ripe black fruit flavors, violets and western spices, revealing a trace of smoke and dark chocolate. Full-bodied and crisp, fruity-forward, with strong and converged tannins and delicate texture. Balanced, in the last part you can feel it slight alcoholic. Tobacco and spices can be found in the long finish, Alc.=15%, Ph=3.55<\/p>\n<p>You can still tell that it&#8217;s from new world, but indeed elegant. I must say it&#8217;s good. As for the price, you can listen to either LVMH ( because of the high cost, more than Chateau Cheval Blanc and Chateau D&#8217;yquem) or some critics\uff08almost as expensive as Chateau Cheval Blanc and Opus one, so unreasonable\uff09, or just keep quiet, wait and see how it will behave in the market.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wineblogchina.com\/?page_id=490\">Maxime LU<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jiang LU (Maxime LU\uff09 &nbsp; Speaking of the most expensive and most international wine now made in China, the first on the list should be Aoyun wine (AOYUN) produced in Yunnan Shangri-La by the world&#8217;s top luxury group LVMH. 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